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some people have had

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you know that snl skit of like some

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people have really phenomenal

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experiences

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and then some people have had terrible

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like terrifying experiences so like

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man i feel like there's this divide

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that's happening uh

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definitely in the way that i like to

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think about it because if i go down that

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path of this

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the the experience here it's like oh not

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gonna sleep great tonight

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uh but if i just keep it on the surface

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uh as far as like are they a

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threat or not that's easier for me to

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get through my day

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and and talk about that and think about

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it

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so i that's like what you just described

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how there's positive experiences

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and there's negative experiences it just

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makes me think that it's not

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all the same thing it's got to be

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multifaceted

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and something that lou elizondo who's

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been on interviews

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on fox and newsmax lately has even said

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things along the lines of how do we know

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they haven't been here

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for a long time to me

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that says well we might have something

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that lives amongst

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us that we can't perceive

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and i always like to to use the

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metaphor of before people had

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microscopes they could see

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evidence of chemical reactions and

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and things decaying and they could see

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the evidence of it occurring

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but they couldn't look at it to see what

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was causing it and so they

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until technology caught up and they

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could start to use

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tools to investigate further

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that's where i think we're at with

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whatever this

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is this phenomena is is maybe we are

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starting to

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have the equipment necessary to perceive

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it

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in a more substantial way than what we

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have before

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just my thoughts definitely definitely i

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think that's

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it you know i mean me and ben were

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having this conversation earlier we had

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heard somebody say

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um you know as many cases

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as i've as i've heard and gone through

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which is

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thousands uh nobody's ever mentioned a

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tic tac

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the only time i've ever heard of a tic

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tac is is

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by the military or by the government

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why is it that the military and the

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government are the only ones reporting

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these tic tacs

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but actual like experiencers and just

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your average person has never

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experienced

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this tic tac thing what is it about this

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tic tac

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that is attracting them to specifically

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military

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and government people and that kind of

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you're right

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yeah i've never heard of any tic tac

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thing either

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until obviously the the navy came out

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with all that with all their stuff and

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it was like huh

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it's kind of that's kind of eye-opening

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and that's a really interesting question

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why why out of all these hundreds of

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thousands millions of cases why is it

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only like the military people that are

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encountering these tic-tac

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things like what is it about that you

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know what i mean what are your thoughts

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i mean have you thought about that

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um i i don't know how to explain

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all the different shapes um jacques

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valet has

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put forth the theory that basically says

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we could be being messed with basically

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like pretend we're sitting in a movie

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theater and we're looking at the screen

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well there's a tic tac on the screen

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look at that screen and there's a saucer

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on the screen it's catering to the

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audience

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right it knew it knew that you wanted to

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come see a horror movie so i put a

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horror movie in on this one that no it

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knew you want to see a comedy it put

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comedy on

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right but we're seeing what it's wanting

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us to see

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what we need to do is turn around and

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look in the projector's booth

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to figure out what's actually going on

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jack's chocolate dude right like boil

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as best yeah like people see ghosts

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and it's like oh well it presented

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itself as a ghost

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uh some people see aliens oh well that's

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just because the phenomenon has

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presented itself as an alien

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i saw bigfoot well the phenomena just

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presented itself as bigfoot like

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yeah like i i i i like

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that that theory a lot i guess uh

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just the phenomena as a whole presents

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itself

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to you kind of how you would interpret

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it an

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angel uh uh whatever you want to call it

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it just presents itself to you how you

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think you would be most receptive